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Re: Fw: [VintageLambo] Miuras & Handling. I am afraid not

rvosari

Greg, You gotta stop taking this stuff personally... The problem is that the Miura was around 9 years old when this took place... and it was not clapped out... Alfredo and Alberto of Modena used to look after the car... The owner was an older guy who I knew, who did not think that the car"s handling was "quite right" That"s why I took it to the race car shop and made sure that everything was "factory spec"... How was I supposed to know that the car was a "flexible flyer" You should give me credit for running 5 laps with virtually Zero brake REV (:>) PS. The 275 was not the end of the world but it was an easy car to drive fast... stable, predictable and no "flexing" --- In VintageLambo@yahoogroups.com, "Greg" wrote: > Oh Rein, > > I love it when you talk dirty about my favorite car ;-) > > It just serves to remind me (yet again) that many (most?) past and present Ferrari owners still have open wounds over the introduction of the Miura... yikes! ... 37 years later?!. > > As for myself, I"ve said it before and I"ll say it again... I think those 60"s GTBs were very beautiful cars... even if they were more evocative of the previous (great) decade.In fact, my wife would look great in a 275 GTB.She"d also know how to handle the thing with zero track time.And as we all know, neither Uncle Enzo nor Ferruccio were naive.That"s why Lamborghini never developed his cars for the track and Uncle Enzo made his street cars (never the object of his real affection) with the polar moment of the Queen Mary (engine at the front axle and trans/diff at the rear)... so that anyone, regardless of ability, could drive them. > > Now it"s true that the Miura gained weight over it"s life to improve chassis rigidity and handling.But never to the degree of the obese 365 GTB and could pull more lateral Gs that anything Ferrari/Fiat produced up to the 288 GTO (using identical performance tires). > > And I too must admit feeling a rather base urge to run home and bring my VW Rabbit Pickup truck back to Laguna Seca after watching all those pretty GTBs (FOC running the day after the Monterey Historics) lapping8 seconds slower that my normally aspirated 2 liter gardener"s truck. But that"s about as relevant as your chasing a dentist in a Pantera with a clapped out miura (static suspension measurements are worthless when your suspension"s shot). > > But why engage in all this phallus flapping? > > What I think would be really fun would be to cast all this bench racing aside and put Precious on the track with a 275 and/or 365.It would be quite a visual and aural treat.Laguna will be available March 27 & 28th and the Streets of Willow March6 & 7th. > > Life"s too short!Let"s have some fun! > > Best Regards, > Greg&Precious > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: rvosari > To: VintageLambo@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 7:50 PM > Subject: [VintageLambo] Miuras & Handling. I am afraid not > > > Seeing all this talk about Miura suspension mods, I am reminded > about the 20+ minutes I spent in a Miura chasing a decent running and > handling but not particularly well-driven Pantera club racer around > Bridgehampton > > Obviously the Pantera had better brakes and more moxy. but the most > memorable part consisted of 3 distinct events at every corner: > > 1.The tires would take a set > 2.The suspension would do an aggressive toe in/toe out dance > and / or camber flex > 3.When everything seemed set. the frame would flex. resulting > in more sawing at the wheel > > Now this car had just come off a steel alignment table and all > suspension settings were OK and after it"s little outing it went back > to the table and everything was still OK > > So. while I was working hard, the dentist in the Pantera could not > help but remark "hey this thing (P