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Re: [VintageLambo] Re: Inventions |
Charlie Seymour |
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My $.019, "Inventions", I guess sometimes it"s in the execution not in the idea.For example, what did Bill Gates invent ? "Free" software ? :-) DeLorean wanted to be thought of as an "innovator" but he turned to Giuguiarro(body design), Colin Chapman (construction and suspension), The British government ($) and Volvo/Renault (drive train).Not very innovative. Clearly the Lamborghinis are gorgeous, mechanically exciting and very unique.The fact that they were actually built (and without screwing anybody!) probably shows Lamborghini/Ferruccios real genius. Life just wouldn"t be the same without Lamborghinis.I really GOTTA get some help! :-) Charlie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zak McGregor" To: Cc: Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 8:43 PM Subject: Re: [VintageLambo] Re: Inventions > On Tue, 27 May 2003 11:39:51 -0400 > wspohn4@aol.com wrote: > > > In a message dated 5/27/2003 9:51:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, > > zak@mighty.co.za writes: > > > > > I"m not sure which Italian cars your mind is running over, but firms like > > > Alfa Romeo and Fiat have had common or garden family cars with all-round > > > disc brakes, twin cam engines, and 5 speed gearboxes when most if not all > > > equivalent British cars (1963-) had live rears with leaf springs, drum > > > brakes, 4 speed gearboxes and wheezed along with pushrod valves. > > > > Uh, Zak - you"ve slipped a cog here, son. > > Not at all actually... > > > The first series production car to have 4 wheel disc brakes was the Jensen 541 > > Deluxe in 1957 and the Triumph TR-3 had the first front discs in 1956. > > I wasn"t saying that Alfa and Fiat were first, but that their ordinary family > saloons had them at a time when the contemporaries (Hillmans, Austins, etc) > didn"t. > > > FYI, while your Alfalfas (and Ferraris for that matter) were still making do > > with drum brakes, my old 58 MGA (the one I still race) had a 1600 cc double > > overhead cam engine with 108 bhp @ 6700 rpm, with Dunlop disc brakes all > > around - much to the dismay of the contemporary Giuliettas I used to regularly > > thrash. > > Yes, one example from the old Morris Garages that did have these features. Every > other MG after the Twin Cam (a lovely machine, I hasten to add) reverted to at > least drums on the rear and OHV pushrod engines. All the while with dead rear > ends. > > > Oh yes - many British cars of the 50s had 5 speed gear boxes - they used > > Laycock de Normanville electrically operated over-drives instead of an other > > cluster in the box. > > > > My old TR-3 had 7 forward speeds in fact......(most other makes had OD only > > operating on 3rd and 4th, so they were _only_ 5 or 6 speed boxes). > > Point taken. > > Ciao > > Zak > > -- > ======================================================================== > http://www.carfolio.com/Searchable database of 10 000+ car specs > ======================================================================== > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > > > > Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life"s Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/CNxFAA/9jLplB/TM Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to |
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